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Area veterans and experts react to fall of Afghanistan


Decades of American involvement in Afghanistan were swept away when the Taliban seized control of Kabul, the country’s capital, over the weekend.

In a speech Monday, President Joe Biden admitted he was surprised by the speed of the collapse, but he stood by his decision, blaming the Afghan government for failing to mount “any real resistance.”

“American troops cannot and should not be fighting in a war and dying in a war that Afghan forces are not willing to fight for themselves,” Biden said.

Many Republicans, and even some Democrats, have been critical of Biden, arguing he fumbled the withdrawal.

As the situation continues to unfold in Afghanistan, area experts and veterans weighed in on the fall of the Afghanistan government and the triumph of the Taliban.

Andrew Kydd, a professor of political science at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, said that while he was surprised by the speed of the takeover, the lack of commitment by Afghan forces and rampant corruption in the government made a long-term defense of Afghanistan impossible.

Andrew Kydd


“The Afghan military simply wasn’t fighting for the Afghan government,” Kydd said. “There’s no way to overcome that with training.”

'Doomed to lie'

Criticisms of Biden’s assessment of the stability of the Afghan government have abounded, but Kydd said the president may have simply been put in an unfortunate position. If he had admitted that the government was likely to fall soon, the statement itself could have led to the fall.

“You are, in a sense, doomed to lie,” Kydd said.

Since the takeover began, the Taliban has reportedly been making various commitments to be more moderate, promising not to take revenge on those who had worked with the former government and to allow women to work and go to school.

Whether or not this is actually true, “They are at least saying the right things,” Kydd said.

Eric Pullin, a history professor and South Asia specialist at Carthage College, said he wasn't holding his breath.

"I don't see stability coming to Afghanistan any time soon," Pullin said. "But we will see."

Pullin is a harsh critic of the war in Afghanistan, arguing that both the U.S. government and military lacked a clear goal and understanding of the country since sending forces there in 2001 following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on U.S. soil.

"Twenty years later, I have no idea why we were fighting the 'forever war,'" Pullin said.

However, Pullin was also critical of Biden's withdrawal, arguing the Afghan government was left in no condition to resist the Taliban.

"I'm glad it's ending," Pullin said. "But I have no faith that the Taliban are going to do anything but return to the days of old."

Mou Banerjee, an assistant professor in the UW-Madison history department, wondered what the human and emotional toll, both in Afghanistan and here in the U.S., would be.

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“We need to think what it means for all of us who are watching this unfold and who have lived the majority of our lives in this war,” Banerjee said.

Personal to some

Laurens Vellekoop, who served in the army for 22 years and was a POW during the first Gulf War, has a son and daughter who both served multiple tours in Afghanistan. He said he has mixed feelings about the end of the war.

Laurens Vellekoop


“The situation in Afghanistan is bittersweet for me and my kids, as well,” Vellekoop said, pointing to the friends lost and allies abandoned in Afghanistan. “These are things we have to come to terms with.”

Vellekoop said he was surprised by how quickly the government fell and felt the U.S. had a responsibility to the Afghan citizens who had aided them through the war. However, he stood by the U.S. leaving.

“At a certain point, we have to let them become autonomous again,” Vellekoop said.

Compared to Vietnam

Many have compared the images and videos of fleeing Afghan citizens, filling planes and charging runways, to photos from the United States’ disastrous withdrawal from Vietnam when Saigon fell in 1975.

However, John McCoy, a U.S. Navy veteran of Vietnam who was present during that evacuation, said the comparisons are unfair to Vietnam.

“There was no contingency plan,” McCoy said. “This is a whole different thing.”

Pullin said he broadly shared that sentiment, but he felt a better comparison was the Soviet Union's failures in Afghanistan in the 1980s.

"We made many of the same mistakes," Pullin said.

To McCoy, the U.S. should have stayed in Afghanistan until multiple generations were raised outside of Taliban rule, or at least have pulled out region by region, rather than leaving the Afghan army “high and dry.”

John McCoy


“I’m just kind of upset about the whole thing,” McCoy said. “In my mind, we should leave well enough alone.”

Although Banerjee said it would likely be decades before the U.S. had a full understanding of the Afghanistan war, she said a key takeaway was the costs — whether of people, resources or foreign relations  — that came with fighting a war of this magnitude for this long.

“It’s almost impossible to sustain a war against an idea, the ‘war against terror,’” Banerjee said.

Kydd said the war was a humbling experience for the country, showing the U.S was “not very good at state-building.”

“For all the effort, all the intellectual and physical cost born,” Kydd said, “there’s a limit to what you can do.”

As evacuations of both Americans and Afghan allies continue, the Taliban have said they will allow safe passage for those fleeing to the Kabul airport and elsewhere. How many people still need to be evacuated is unclear, with the White House and the Pentagon giving different numbers.

New calls for accountability for the fall of Afghanistan. The Democratic-led Senate Foreign Relations Committee plans to hold a hearing on what it calls flaws in both the Trump administration's peace talks with the Taliban and the Biden administration's execution of the U.S. withdrawal and evacuation.Meanwhile the Taliban is promising safe passage to Kabul's airport for people who want to get out and the State Department is starting to notify groups of Americans sheltering in place to head to the airport. But spokesperson Ned Price couldn't give many specifics on what they should do if they still can't get there safely."This is, again, a challenging security environment so unless and until individuals are instructed by the U.S. Embassy to make their way to the ____ compound, we are asking them to remain in place," he said. "We tell them in our communications that their safety needs to be their top priority. If they feel that it is unsafe for them to make their way to the airport they should not seek to do so. We will continue to do all we can and we will continue to be in touch with them, I should say, to provide clear guidance about when and how they should make their way to the airport compound.Critics say the U.S. should have begun the evacuation of citizens and Afghan allies much earlier to avoid the sort of desperate scenes we've seen at the airport this week. National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan explained why that didn't happen."We did dramatically accelerate the SIV process and move out a substantial number of SIV applicants and their families," he said. "But the Afghan government and their supporters, including many of the people now seeking to leave, made a passionate case that we should not conduct a massive evacuation lest we trigger a loss of confidence in the government. Now our signaling support for the government obviously did not save the government." Kabul fell Sunday after the Taliban marched into provincial capitals across Afghanistan capturing them in less than two weeks and in some cases, reportedly, without much armed opposition from government forces.


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